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OLIVER 1900 FWD
Hello friends,
I'm wondering if anyone here might have any experience with the Oliver 1900 Wheatland tractor?
There's one coming up for auction that I have my eye on. It has an early 1960s model with the 4-53 Detroit Diesel engine, rated at 89 horses, and the tractor weighs in at 12,000 pounds! This one comes equipped with dual remote hydraulics, 3pt. hitch, 540 RPM PTO, and 4-Wheel drive......no loader.
Being that I live in an area in which Oliver never had any dealerships, I have no experience with the brand. My area is largely Case IH, John Deere, and more recently, New Holland country.
I'm very interested in this tractor, mainly because it is small and HEAVY. This would be a fantastic snow removal tractor, as well as a heavy puller. At 12,000 pounds, I don't believe I'd have any problem with a lack of traction in the snow.
For anyone who might be interested, here's a photo.
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Any feedback would be appreciated.
Joel
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I have some new information on this beast.
If I understand things correctly, the Oliver 1900 had a two-stroke, turbo-charged diesel. The sound this engine makes when under power is something that takes a lot of getting used to, as it's apparently very noisy.
Additionally, due to it's extreme weight and high horsepower, it was able to pull an 8-bottom plow.......even without the 4-wheel drive option.
Depending on the feedback I receive from my friends here, I believe I'll have one of these Oliver 1900s parked in my barn within a year or two.
Can't wait to see how well it does at the local tractor pull competition! hehehe.
Joel
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Art,
Thanks for the info. I'd like to hear that engine run. hehehe.
The tractor I was looking at sold at auction for $14,500. At the last minute, the loader was offered as a separate item. It sold for $2500. I was unable to outbid my competitors. Dang it.
I'm looking for a very heavy tractor, but not too big in overall size. The Oliver 1900 seems about right for me, but I'm willing to consider any tractor that's built like a tank.
Do you know of any similar tractors that you would recommend?
The piece of land I purchased is full of metal, such as car bodies, frames, axles, engine blocks, huge pieces of broken concrete, railroad ties, utility poles, bundles of wire, etc.....and everything is buried under piles of other such debris and garbage.
In the many years since the previous owner used this place as a garbage pit, it has all grown over with several feet of grass and weed roots.
To this point in time, I've been digging up piece by piece, and then pulling the stuff out of the ground using a cable, chains, and other heavy rigging tackle attached to my old pickup, over "A" frames built out of old railroad switching ties. It's working, but it's a slow process.
I'd like to speed up the process a bit, by simply using a tractor with forks on the loader. but any tractor is going to have to be a heavy bugger.
I'm looking for suggestions. Any old tractor with lots of weight and good power is needed. Preferably 4-wheel drive.
The Oliver 1900's weight (12,000) pounds is what I'm looking for, but I'm not fussy as to make or model. An excavator is out of the question, as I have plans to put this tractor to use breaking up some native grassland that has a lot of rocks in it. I'd like to pull a ripper behind this tractor at some point in the future.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Many thanks.
Joel
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Earthwrks,
Many thanks for the info and the ideas. I'll keep your comments in mind as I look for a used machine to do this hard work.
I will need to put about 100 hours on the machine, which rules out renting anything.
Something in a reasonable price range would be good, so that I can resell it when I'm done using it. If I take a small loss on the resale, I'll still be way ahead of the rental cost. I thought it might be easier to resell a rubber wheeled tractor, than a bulldozer, but I won't rule out even a D-5 Cat.
I still like the Oliver 1900, but I'll keep my eyes open for something with a similar size and weight. And if I can find a used 900 series Bobcat, I'll surely consider buying it. I know of one in use about 9 miles from me, but it's not for sale. It is a heavy tractor. It will lift some incredible weight.
Joel
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Earthwrks,
I forgot to ask you about the Ford 2000. It is advertised somewhere where I can see a picture of it, such as tractorhouse.com?
If I remember correctly, the Ford 2000 was a fairly heavy machine. I might be able to get by with something in that size and weight, as I'm really getting tired of digging most of this stuff out by hand.
My little Kubota works great for hauling the chains, cables, jacks, and other material handling goods to and from the junk pile, but it's far too small for this project. I had it out there just once, and used it to haul about 40 wheels and tires out of the junk pile, along with a number of intake manifolds, engine blocks, and gear boxes. Everything else is just too big for the little Kubota.
Tell ya what though, I'd like to meet the man who had this place before me. A dark alley would be a real good meeting place. hehehe.
Joel
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Earthwrks,
Thanks for the information. I'm still considering whether or not I want to make the trip. Not sure I want to go that far for a tractor.
Still, I'd like to see it. I figure it might be around until next Spring.....if I'm lucky.
I have a daughter who's expecting her first child in Feb. She lives in southern Minnesota. Maybe I can schedule a trip sometime after the snow melts, in May, to see the new grandbaby, my daughter, and the Ford 2000. From here to Monroe, MI, according to Google Maps, it's more than 1100 miles, one way.
If you get some pictures posted, please let me know.
Many thanks for the help.
Joel
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Art White,
Scrap metal is worth a lot more today than it has been in the past, but I live more than 125 miles (one way) from the nearest scrap metal yard. I am not able to haul enough metal with my equipment to pay for the trip. I give away my scrap metal to the first person who shows up, and I'm always happy to see it go.
KThompson,
There is almost no industry where I live.......in fact there are very few people. The nearest stop-light is more than 40 miles from here. The nearest Burger King is 125 miles, one way. McDonalds is a bit closer, at 40 miles one way. It's nearly impossible to find any equipment of the type you mention in these very rural areas, as such investments would never pay off for the owner. I'm forced to look far and wide for most anything I need.
Murf,
The nearest Belarus dealer went belly up more than 10 years ago, when he discovered that farmers in this area weren't about to purchase anything that they weren't sure they'd be able to find parts for at some later time.
There may be a few Belarus tractors around, but I'm looking for something that I could purchase and resell as soon as I'm finished with it. The Belarus would become a permanent fixture around here, I'm afraid, should I ever bring one home.
To all.........
Thanks for the stories. The more I hear about this Detroit 2-stroke Diesel, the more I'd like to have one. I'll keep my eyes open for one of these Oliver 1900s, unless something else catches my interest first.
I've been working on this scrap pile, on and off, for more than 8 years. Another 8 years isn't going to hurt anything........but I'm afraid it could take that long.
I have a friend with a D-6 Cat dozer sitting in his trees. It doesn't run, and it doesn't have a blade attached. Maybe he'll let me tinker with the thing long enough to get it running. If so, I believe I'll have found the muscle I need to make short work of this mess.
I'll keep you posted.
Joel
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Art White,
To a degree, I believe I'm spoiled too.
I shoot coyotes and prairie dogs from my kitchen window, with the M1 Garand, whenever I danged well please. The only problem I have with that is the wife, who hates it when the hot brass goes down her collar as she's cooking breakfast. hehehe.
Living in this part of the country gives me a whole lot of time to enjoy life. If I ever get around to it, I'll post some pictures of the place for you.
The rifle range in the backyard extends nearly to Canada, as there are very few people remaining around here. 8 of 9 farm houses are abandoned, and our schools are closing left and right.
This year, our high school football team has a new name....again. CBEMS is the name of our football team, because it is composed of students from Cando, Bisbee, Egland, Munich, and Starkweather. And this is 9-man football. Not enough kids to form an 11 man team.
Next year, the grade schools will also close in two more of those towns, with the exception of Cando. Ah....yes......peace and quiet, fresh air, clean water, and no neighbors. This can really spoil a guy.
Joel
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